Friday, 22 November 2013

Pretend It Was President McCain


Pretend It Was President McCain
11/22/2013
Anthony Gregory

The president has had a tough few months. Many of his defenders wish to shift blame for the big policy problems to his detractors. I have a question for them.

What if McCain had won in 2008 and 2012? What if the current scandals, power grabs, and policy disasters occurred under Republican stewardship? Would you brush them off? Lament them as regrettable but inevitable and blown out of proportion, as you seem to today?

Consider the Affordable Care Act. In 2008, Obama opposed the individual mandate, while many Republicans supported it. Now, the two parties have switched. So this isn't the most untenable hypothetical: What if McCain had won, and signed a law forcing Americans to buy health insurance, then decided to delay the mandate for corporations but not for individuals? What if McCain repeatedly and unambiguously promised that if you liked your current insurance policy, you could keep it? What if that promise revealed itself as impossible, as millions saw their policies dropped and the president had to unilaterally enact an ad hoc fix that could only work temporarily and introduced a whole new set of problems?

What if all over the country, many saw their premiums skyrocket? What if President McCain rolled out a clunky health care website riddled with bugs week after week? What if the McCain administration overestimated the number of initial signups by a factor of five or more, and only one out of 254 who visited the site effectively signed up for health care in the first month? What if McCain, on the national stage, pointed to a woman as a health care success story, and weeks later, due to a confusion in pricing, she realized she might not be able to afford insurance at all under the new plan? What if we found out that thirty to forty percent of McCain's federal exchange system, including its payment processing, had yet to be built a little over a month before the program was to launch?

Yes, there are ways to spin each problem for maximum charity toward the current president. But what if that president were McCain?

Obama beat McCain in 2008 due to two major areas: the economy and the Republicans' disastrous foreign policy. And what about the economy? The Democrats warned at the beginning of Obama's term that Congress needed to pass the stimulus to prevent a 9% unemployment rate. Some of us arguing against stimulus conceded that the country might suffer high unemployment rate for a year or so to allow the liquidation of malinvestment. That was considered callous.

Over two years later, in May 2011, Nancy Pelosi was describing a 9% unemployment rate as " good news." When the figure was 4.4% under Bush, Pelosi called it "the worst jobs record since the Great Depression." Today unemployment lingers around 7%--five years into the Obama presidency.

You might have all sorts of explanations for the high unemployment rate. But if McCain presided over an average unemployment rate of 8.9% for nearly five years, would you just shrug it off, especially if Wall Street was booming while inequality skyrocketed? Would you give McCain a pass? Or would you blame the president and tolerate no excuses?

Moving to foreign policy, Obama's supporters continue to credit the president for ending the Iraq war. At the end of 2008, the Iraqi government essentially forced President Bush into accepting the Status of Forces Agreement withdrawal timetable that Obama basically adopted. What if McCain had won in 2008, oversaw an end to the war as determined by his predecessor, took credit for it, and then, ten years after the war began, started considering military aid that could conceivably lead to a replay of American intervention? If McCain did this, would you praise him for ending the war?

When Obama took office, about 33,000 U.S. troops served in Afghanistan. Neither Bush nor McCain planned to significantly increase that number. Obama did. He came to power, tripled the U.S. troop presence to around 100,000, and now plans by next year to draw it back down to the same number that were there when he took office. At other times, he has pondered having a significant presence there for another decade. About three-fourths of American casualties in Afghanistan took place under Obama, and Afghan casualties have mounted on his watch as well. In short, Obama vastly expanded a war and now plans to bring it down to the level it was when he inherited it-- and for this he's taking credit for "a decade of war. . . now ending."

What if McCain did that? What if McCain tripled U.S. forces and casualties in Afghanistan, gradually brought them back down to the levels we saw at the end of the Bush years, and took credit for this maneuvering for peace? Would you praise him for that, or blame him for inflicting extraneous bloodshed?

What if McCain bombed more countries than Bush, and even tried to start a war with Syria, only to back down when the American populace expressed its strong opposition and Russia brought forward a negotiation scheme? Would you credit McCain for avoiding a major war, or blame him for nearly fumbling into one?

Or consider civil liberties. What if McCain had promised to close Guantánamo by January 2010, and almost four years after that target date he still kept over 160 prisoners there? What if McCain was releasing detainees far slower than Bush did? What if McCain's expanded war in Afghanistan led to thousands more war captives? What if McCain's first military commission for terrorism was condemned internationally as a crime against human rights because it involved the persecution of an injured and tortured child soldier? What if McCain had vowed to protect whistleblowers, only to turn around and wage an unprecedented war against them?

What if McCain claimed not only the right to detain terror suspects and prisoners of war without due process, but the power to target anyone the executive branch deemed a terrorist, even within the United States, American citizens included, and summarily execute them by drone?

What if McCain, after initially promising as a Senator to fight against Bush's warrantless wirtetapping program, oversaw its vast expansion? What if McCain's NSA director and other high officials were caught lying over and over again about the surveillance program and what the president knew about it? What if President McCain oversaw the most systematic, comprehensive, and powerful surveillance state in world history?

What if President McCain oversaw more deportations of immigrants than any previous president and 80% more medical marijuana prosecutions than President Bush?

Is the reason Obama's defenders hold him to a different standard simply because they don't want Republicans to take over? One wonders how much a difference it would make. Before the last presidential election, I predicted George W. Bush would win a fourth term. My point was to show the commonalities among Bush, Obama, and Romney. We focus on their rhetorical disagreements, but for whatever differences we can identify, on major questions of policy, war, and human rights issues, the two parties govern very similarly.

The major distinction would be who defends the president, and who protests most loudly.

Had McCain been president for the last five years, a lot of things would probably be the same, and some would be different. The biggest difference would be that many Republicans would stand by the president, and just as many Democrats would be calling for impeachment.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/anthony-gregory/pretend-it-was-president-_b_4311862.html

Sun News : Costco apologizes for labelling Bible as fiction


Why is this a contravention? You know damn well if they had put it in non-fiction no one would have complained.

And if they had done this to the qur,an their stores would be burnt to the ground.

The fact that there are so many versions of the bible is kind of a clue that is can't be fact.


http://www.sunnewsnetwork.ca/sunnews/business/archives/2013/11/20131120-162049.html

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Fwd: [New post] Woman calls radio station, gloats about sitting at home collecting welfare





Dr. Eowyn posted: " This will get you hopping mad, as it should. A woman who calls herself "Lucy" called in to News Radio KLBJ 590 AM/99.7 FM in Austin, Texas, to gloat about how she and other welfare recipients just sit at home instead of work. Below is a transcript "
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Woman calls radio station, gloats about sitting at home collecting welfare

by Dr. Eowyn

welfare dependence This will get you hopping mad, as it should.

A woman who calls herself "Lucy" called in to News Radio KLBJ 590 AM/99.7 FM in Austin, Texas, to gloat about how she and other welfare recipients just sit at home instead of work.

Below is a transcript I took from audio of the radio show.

Host: "Lucy, you're on KLBJ."

Lucy: "Hi, how are you. I just want to say while workers out there are people like you that are preaching morality at people like me living on welfare, can you really blame us? I mean, I get to sit home, I get to go visit my friends all day, I even get to smoke weed. And I've seen people that I know are illegal immigrants that don't contribute to society, we're still gonna get paid. Our checks are coming in the mail every month and it's gonna be on time, and we get subsidized housing. We even get presents delivered for our kids at Christmas. Why should I work? So you know what? Y'all get the benefit of ... erh ... you know, saying 'Oh, look at me. I'm a better person,' but when y'all come back how y'all a better person cause y'all go to work, we're the ones getting paid! So can you really blame us?"

Host: "Are you talking on an Obama phone as well?"

Lucy: "Yeah, I get an Obama phone."

Host: "How much ... have you added up the total of what you get each month, Lucy?"

Lucy: "No, I haven't."

Host: "But what do you get? Just quickly go down the list of the things you get from taxpayers."

Lucy: "Well, I only pay $50 a month for rent. It's supposed to be $600 something, so there's $550 right there. I get $425 a month for food stamps. I get $150 month to pay my electric bill. I get a cell phone and then I get $100 a month paid towards for water."

Host: "And that's from the City of Austin?"

Lucy: "Yes."

Host: "Do you have any kids, Lucy?"

Lucy: "I have three kids."

Host: "Does your husband work?"

Lucy: "He'll work every now and then. Part time. But he doesn't work very much. He doesn't feel the need for it."

Host: "Does he get benefits as well?"

Lucy: "Yeah. Those are family benefits."

Host: "And Lucy is asking everyone listening right now why should she get up and drive in the rain to work all day and pay taxes when she can get those kinds of help from those who're going to work. Lucy, don't you feel guilty about gaming the system and taking everybody else's money just because you can lay down and watch TV on Riverside Drive every day of the year and smoke wee."

Lucy: "But you know, if somebody offered you a million dollars, no strings attached, would you walk away from it?"

Camus quote

 

At that point, I stopped listening and stopped transcribing.

Not only do I blame welfare sloths like Lucy, I blame every politician who panders to the Lucys and who has helped in the creation of America's obscene and utterly unsustainable Welfare State.

H/t my hubby and FOTM's Wild Bill Alaska

~Eowyn

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Fwd: FBI Warning!










WARNING:
 After a recent wave of identify thefts, the FBI estimates there are over 500 fake Obamacare websites set up for the sole purpose of stealing your personal information. So protect yourself and...........

remember: the real one is the one that doesn't work.



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Re: In the department store

(That's the funniest thing you have posted in 2013 Bruce!)


On Fri, Nov 22, 2013 at 10:58 AM, Bruce Majors <majors.bruce@gmail.com> wrote:


An Amish boy and his father were in a mall. They were amazed by almost everything they saw, but especially by two shiny, silver walls that could move apart and then slide back together again. The boy asked, "What is this, Father?"


The father (never having seen an elevator) responded, "Son, I have never seen anything like this in my life, I don't know what it is."


While the boy and his father were watching with amazement, a fat, old lady in a wheel chair moved up to the moving walls and pressed a button. The walls opened and the lady rolled between them into a small room. The walls closed and the boy and his father watched the small circular numbers above the walls light up sequentially. They continued to watch until it reached the last number and then the numbers began to light in the reverse order. Finally the walls opened up again and a gorgeous 24-year-old blonde stepped out.


The father said quietly to his son....."Go get your mother."

 
 

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Fwd: In the department store



An Amish boy and his father were in a mall. They were amazed by almost everything they saw, but especially by two shiny, silver walls that could move apart and then slide back together again. The boy asked, "What is this, Father?"


The father (never having seen an elevator) responded, "Son, I have never seen anything like this in my life, I don't know what it is."


While the boy and his father were watching with amazement, a fat, old lady in a wheel chair moved up to the moving walls and pressed a button. The walls opened and the lady rolled between them into a small room. The walls closed and the boy and his father watched the small circular numbers above the walls light up sequentially. They continued to watch until it reached the last number and then the numbers began to light in the reverse order. Finally the walls opened up again and a gorgeous 24-year-old blonde stepped out.


The father said quietly to his son....."Go get your mother."

 
 

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Fwd: Dck Maintenance

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Fwd: Former Dolphins LB Channing Crowder Peed His Pants In Every Game of His Career

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Fwd: Pics and toons 11/22/13





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Fwd: Underwear Flash Mob Makes Times Square Super Sexy

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Fwd: This Is The Most Uncomfortable Thing In The History Of The Internet

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Fwd: 26 Dangerous Symptoms Of Being Addicted To Puns

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Fwd: 19 Things You Didn't Know About Scrooge McDuck

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Fwd: Voted for Obama --- twice





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Fwd: Election Psychology for 2014








Psychology 101 - THIS IS BRILLIANT!

 

If you start with a cage containing five monkeys and inside the cage, hang a banana on a string from the top and then you place a set of stairs under the banana, before long a monkey will go to the stairs and climb toward the banana.  As soon as he touches the stairs, you spray all the other monkeys with cold water.  After a while another monkey makes an attempt with same result... all the other monkeys are sprayed with cold water. Pretty soon when another monkey tries to climb the stairs, the other monkeys will try to prevent it.

 

Now, put the cold water away.  Remove one monkey from the cage and replace it with a new one.  The new monkey sees the banana and attempts to climb the stairs. To his shock, all of the other monkeys beat the crap out of him. After another attempt and attack, he knows that if he tries to climb the stairs he will be assaulted. 

 

Next, remove another of the original five monkeys, replacing it with a new one.  The newcomer goes to the stairs and is attacked. The previous newcomer takes part in the punishment...with enthusiasm, because he is now part of the "team". 

 

Then, replace a third original monkey with a new one, followed by the fourth, then the fifth. Every time the newest monkey takes to the stairs, he is attacked.  Now, the monkeys that are beating him up have no idea why they were not permitted to climb the stairs. Neither do they know why they are participating in the beating of the newest monkey. 

 

Finally, having replaced all of the original monkeys, none of the remaining monkeys will have ever been sprayed with cold water. Nevertheless, not one of the monkeys will try to climb the stairway for the banana.  Why, you ask? Because in their minds...that is the way it has always been! 

 

This, my friends, is how Congress operates...and this is why, from time to time ALL of the monkeys need to be REPLACED AT THE SAME TIME!

 



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Fwd: [New post] Hospitals Suing over Exclusion from Obamacare Exchanges





Harold posted: "Elizabeth Sheld11/21/2013Source ..... In order to contain the costs of providing health care services to higher risk consumers, insurance companies have been forced to exclude certain health care providers from the Obamacare exchanges. In particular, "pri"
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Elizabeth Sheld 11/21/2013 Source ..... In order to contain the costs of providing health care services to higher risk consumers, insurance companies have been forced to exclude certain health care providers from the Obamacare exchanges. In particular, "pricey" academic hospitals are left out of the new health care program and some are retaliating. Seattle Children's […]

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Fwd: [New post] Our Community Organizer-in-Chief Is At It Again





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